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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:22 am 
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The SBG portray the 3rd Kompanie, 1st Panzergrenadier Regt. 1st SS Panzer Division, Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler.

The reason why they are portrayed by the SBG is that they fought in virtually every major campaign on mainland Europe in WW2 and had no war crimes or atrocities recorded against them.

Peter Mooney of the SBG has written and published a book about their history:-

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Beginning as the personal bodyguard to Adolf Hitler the W-SS was a very important element of the National Socialist organization. In the early 1920's some 200 men were recruited to form the " Stosstruppe Adolf Hitler " which was responsible for Hitlers personal safety and to keep order during public meetings.

This group was later expanded to become the " SchutzStaffell " ( Protection squad ) or the SS, which in 1929 came under the command of Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler. ln 1933 with the growing threat to Adolf Hitlers life a new form of "Elite" bodyguard was created and was given the title SS LEIBSTANDARTE ADOLF HITLER or SS LAH. Originally consisting of 120 handpicked pure "Aryan" men the recruits swore themselves body and soul to their Führer. Their commander was one of Adolf Hitler's best friends and one time personal bodyguard Josef "Sepp" Dietrich.

The SS LAH were the only SS unit to wear white leatherwork during parades and as much of their training consisted of parade ground drill they were nick named " The Asphalt Soldiers ", a term which was soon proved to be misjudged as their intense training made them fearless in combat. As General Eberhard von Mackensen wrote : " Every division wishes it had the Leibstandarte as its neighbour, as much during the attack as the defence. Its inner discipline, its cool daredevilry, its cheerful enterprise, its unshakeable firmness in a crisis ... its exemplary toughness, its camaraderie ( which deserves special praise ) , all these are outstanding and cannot be surpassed ".

By 1936 the SS LAH had developed into 2 fully armed regiments and by 1939 had 3700 trained men. In the same year they took part in the invasion of Poland and after the Dutch and French campaigns of 1940 the Leibstandarte was expanded to Brigade strength and its title was slightly altered to LEIBSTANDARTE SS ADOLF HITLER.

After taking part in the Balkan campaign ( April 1941 ) the unit was officially designated SS DIVISION LEIBSTANDARTE ADOLF HITLER. In July 1941 the LSSAH took part in the invasion of Russia and it was during this campaign that the Waffen SS (Armed or fighting SS ) and in particular the LSSAH earned their reputation for their ferocity during battle. The eagerness of the Waffen SS for combat coupled with their fanaticism bordered on the reckless and during the opening stages of World War II many Waffen SS were killed in action.

The Leibstandarte later became known as "The Führers Fire Brigade", plugging gaps and routing the enemy where the normal German army divisions failed to hold. In 1942 Hitler decreed that his guard should receive the title "SS PANZER GRENADIER DIVISION LEIBSTANDARTE ADOLF HITLER". After a short rest and refit in France the Leibstandarte returned to Russia in the spring of 1943 where it took part in the great tank battle at Kursk. After once again suffering heavy casualties the Division was sent to Northern Italy where it helped disarm the Italian army. It was during 1943 that the Division was given its final title"I. SS Pz. Div. LEIBSTANDARTE ADOLF HITLER".

From November 1943 until April 1944 the Leibstandarte continued to fight In Russia where it suffered appalling losses when it broke out of encirclement at Skala. ln 1944 the Division was resting and refitting in Belgium when, in June, the Western Allies landed at Normandy. The Leibstandarte was sent to France where it saw heavy action in the Caen sector and was once again surrounded, this time at Falaise. Before it broke out and returned to Northern Germany the Division was reduced to an armoured strength of only thirty tanks.

In December 1944 the Leibstandarte, fighting as part of the Sixth SS Panzer Army, took part in Germany's last great offensive, the Ardennes campaign " Wacht am Rhein " (better known as the Battle of the Bulge). Due to lack of fuel, Allied air superiority and unfavorable weather conditions the offensive, although giving the Allies a bloody nose, failed. In March 1945 the division was transferred to Hungary to stem the tidal wave of Russian armies sweeping in from the East. The Leibstandarte, fighting with desperation to defend the soil of greater Germany, finally capitulated to American forces at Styer in Austria, May 1945.

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Some interesting facts about the LSSAH:

*The LSSAH were the only SS unit to wear white leatherwork with their black uniforms during parades.

*LSSAH Panzer NCO's wore Silver tresse on their tank uniforms. No other W-SS tank unit did this.

* The regimental 'key' insignia is a play on Sepp Dietrich's surname, which basically meant 'Skeleton Key.'

The key ("Dietrich") was designed by August-Wilhelm Trabandt and adopted by the unit in June 1940. It refers to the last name of the commander Josef 'Sepp' Dietrich. A 'Dietrich' is a key which opens all doors. The emblem, arguably one of the most recognisable used by the German armed forces, was used by the regiment-division until the end of the war.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:15 pm 
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hi there,
i'm in the 3rd kompanie LSSAH in New Zealand.
we too portray the same unit.
you say that no atrocities were commited by the 1st SS Panzer Division.
what about the malmedy massacre ?
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... medy2.html
sepp dietrich was imprisoned for life for that affair, it was later reduced to 25yrs.
heres a picture of the Commanding officers of the LSSAH.

Josef Dietrich :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Dietrich

Brif Theodor wisch :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Wisch

Brif Wilhelm Mohnke :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Mohnke

Brif Otto Kumm:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kumm

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:33 am 
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You misinterpreted the information, the 3rd Kompanie had no war crimes recorded against it and that's what the SBG portrays.

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:34 am 
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Schäfer wrote:
You misinterpreted the information, the 3rd Kompanie had no war crimes recorded against it and that's what the SBG portrays.

Thank you.

oops! sorry about that. i thought you ment the LSSAH in general.
my mistake.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:59 am 
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That's what happens when people either don't read information correctly or don't know the history of the group which the portray. It certainly helps having people who are a fountain of knowledge that you can ask if you don't know yourself of course ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:09 am 
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Also the founder of your group is an SBG member,so you in effect are the New Zealand branch of the SBG :D
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:54 pm 
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Schäfer wrote:
The Leibstandarte later became known as "The Führers Fire Brigade", plugging gaps and routing the enemy where the normal German army divisions failed to hold.


I thought that the 'Grossdeutchland' division became known as the above term due to their fighting on the eastern front, plugging the gaps which the Red Army had broken through.

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Grenadier1 wrote:
Schäfer wrote:
The Leibstandarte later became known as "The Führers Fire Brigade", plugging gaps and routing the enemy where the normal German army divisions failed to hold.


I thought that the 'Grossdeutchland' division became known as the above term due to their fighting on the eastern front, plugging the gaps which the Red Army had broken through.



yes they were aswell, many units were called The Führers Fire brigade , any units used in such actions were called Fire Brigades for this purpose .


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Tom is quite correct. Many armoured divisions (SS or otherwise) regarded themselves as 'fire brigades' becuase they were shunted around stamping out one 'flare up' after another mostly at the whim of Hitler pointing his finger on a map.

GD in particular were more specific in their adopted nickname, they were the 'Feuerwehr der Ostfront' on account of spending 4 unbroken years on Germany's eastern front.

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i think that you should invest in the 5 books of the LAH and read !not just the usual wank a pedia from the net , as the brigadfuhrer stated you have a alte member of the 3rd kompanie there on your side of the world . :twisted:


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Was Standartefuhrer Peiper a commander of this part of the Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler?

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In the Ardennes the third komp;was part of 'Kampfgruppe Hansen'.
One of our members,Peter Mooney has had a book published on the history of the third komp;
"Dietrich's warriors" the history of the 3.Kompanie/1st Panzergrenadier Regiment.
1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler,in world war 2.
Schiffer publishing isbn:0-7643-1984-1.
Peter should be at Detling this weekend as Im hoping to pick up vol;2 of his latest book "Waffen-SS knights and their battles" The waffen ss knights cross holders.

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