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Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:19 pm
by askhati
I am in the (very) early stages of putting together a Luftwaffe impression for a Fall of Berlin re-enactment event in May 2015, and I am looking for some advice. The basic idea is to do a Flak soldier from one of the Berlin flak towers, who has subsequently been pulled into the urban combat. Panzerfaust in hand (or even a Luftfaust, time and workshop permitting), fighting against the Red tide.

Here is what I have managed to line up, as basic components, thus far (none bought yet, still researching):
- Fliegerbluse in blue-gray wool
-- red collar tabs w/ 3 gulls, left arm chevron for Obergefreiter
-- blue boards with red waffenfarbe
- M43 trousers, LW blue-gray wool
- M42 helmet, field-grey paint
- brown leather belt, LW buckle
- blue LW breadbag, w/ canteen (brown) and mess kit (field-grey)
- gas mask canister, field-grey
- low boots w/ LW gaiters (blue w/ black leather)

Here are my questions:
1) Which of the above items are incorrect, or unlikely for the impression?
2) What trade patches, if any, would be suitable for a LW Flak soldier of Obergefreiter rank at this point in the war? Ditto for cuff titles, awards, etc from the flak towers (if any).
3) Should the belt buckle be painted field-grey as well, or left silver?
4) Should the gaiters be the LW blue models, or would the green Heer models suffice?
5) What is missing from my list?

Some input from the more knowledgeable LW and FD folks would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:51 am
by christiandbn
Looks good. if you want you can also opt for an m44 pattern trousers and feldbluse as well. LW breadbag can be of any colour at this point, not necessarily blue.

A greatcoat, without collar tabs, can also complete the impression, depending on the weather.

as for trade badges? Sound locater could be one. Flak trade badge could be another.

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:59 pm
by askhati
Flak trade badge:

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Sound locator trade badge:

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Are those the ones you are referring to? They go on the lower left arm, about 15cm up from the bottom of the cuff?

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:42 pm
by christiandbn
Yes those are the ones :)

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:29 pm
by askhati
Do you know of an affordable repro source for those? My google skills are failing me...

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:57 am
by VonSchnitzel
Ask Frank as gd43
He will probably make it

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:58 am
by Friedrich Köhler
I would have used field grey m43 kielhosen and green gaiters together with a blue fliegerbluse. If I may I would suggest a black belt with LW buckle to this impression.
I'm really interested in how this impression develops. Please post pictures!

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:57 pm
by askhati
I'm slowly but surely starting to collect the necessary bits, will post pics once I have something worth wearing. I also have access to a great photographer, who recently shot this type of work:

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Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:09 pm
by Friedrich Köhler
Why ain't he got tress on his collar? :P

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:14 pm
by Oberleutnant Ulrich
It's a drillich tunic, so doesn't have to have it, plus he said late war...so almost anything goes.. ;)

But what's the crossed rifles on the pocket flap?

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:49 pm
by peterwulfhund
I reckon she'd struggle to find the red nail varnish too !

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:02 am
by Oberleutnant Ulrich
Ah, good point! If her partner was a high ranking officer, maybe a different story, but an Unteroffizier...not a chance :P

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:40 am
by SplinterA
Drillich tunic with mounted litzen?
No sling on the K98 and WHAT is wrong with the bolt handle?
The badge on the pocket looks like a US officer collar dog. Doesnt really belong there.

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:00 am
by Halle
The Yanks don't seem to have noticed them either ........ :lol: :lol:

Re: Luftwaffe '45 - Fall of Berlin impression

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:02 am
by askhati
Oooh, you guys with the sharp eyes... :P This shot was actually something we did as a promo for the WW2 airsoft group here in SA, so there were some concessions on accuracy.

1) Mounted litzen = girlfriend is a seamstress, so she did some "glam" on the uniform while I was on leave. (In real life: easier to sew on than the regular litzen)

2) Have one K98 sling between two rifles, and this rifle was the sans-sling one on that day. The bolt handle is off because the entire rifle is actually built around Dboys K98 externals (that rubbish, shell-ejecting _thing_) and a Tercel Bar10 springer internals. Notice also that the barrel of the gun is slightly longer than normal - with the bayonet mounted, the barrel tip still protrudes over the blade.

3) Pocket badge = two crossed bayonets, which is our MAR club insignia. Few people pick it up, but I should have know better here :P

4) Red nail varnish = I also commented on that before the shoot, but the missus wasn't listening. Women... *shrugs*

5) Collar tresse = will be added as soon as I can find someone that sells the subdued, late-war Heer version per yard/meter.

The photographer, while greatly skilled in his area of expertise, knew a little less about the war itself - hence the US troops in the bottom corner. The guy has great potential for future shoots though, and his work (like the one above) has really helped to lift our profile in our area. (might have been more due to the missus in the pic than me, to be honest...)