I am looking for some advice on the M44 breast eagle - the triangular design, usually seen on the M44 tunic. I'm not even 100% sure whether it was known as the M44 breast eagle, but that was the designation which stuck in my mind.
Anyway. I am looking for info on the following:
- Around what date was this breast eagle design first introduced into common use?
- Would it ever have been applied to the M43 HBT tunics, or was it an M44-only design?
- (as a somewhat related sub-question to the one above: what manner of breast/arm eagle was used on Liebermuster, if any?)
I am in the process of designing a new late-war M43 HBT tunic for a sani impression, and wanted to check whether the triangular design could replace the regular mid-war grey-on-field-grey Heer design. Thanks in advance.
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Re: M44 breast eagle
Going by German army uniforms and insignia by Brian L Davis,the M44 field blouse was introduced on the 25th September 1944.The triangular bevo eagle is refered to as an economy pattern.Standard pattern eagles were also worn on this tunic.John
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Re: M44 breast eagle
If the tunic was introduced sept;1944,then I would assume the insignia was introduced around the same time.I see now you want an eagle for an HBT tunic,on WAF I found HBT tunics with standard,late and printed eagles.This is a late war eagle found on HBT tunics(its also refered to as a 'shirt 'eagle)and M43 wool tunics.
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Re: M44 breast eagle
The trapzoid "M44" eagles can be found on a lot of M43, and even occationally on M42 tunics, not sure on the exact date of issue, but i heard somewere that it was some time in 43.
But M43's were produced right up to the end, and i would guess some M42 were aswell, i know the SS M42's were at least.
It was also quite common for the regular eagle to be sewn on as a trapzoid aswell, that can even be seen on M44's
But M43's were produced right up to the end, and i would guess some M42 were aswell, i know the SS M42's were at least.
It was also quite common for the regular eagle to be sewn on as a trapzoid aswell, that can even be seen on M44's
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The trapezoid DOES save a lot of time in the sewing department, to be honest...
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Re: M44 breast eagle
though there are many eagles in the hat, the sleeve of the uniform, I like the eagle of the breast much more.askhati wrote:I am looking for some advice on the M44 breast eagle - the triangular design, usually seen on the M44 tunic. I'm not even 100% sure whether it was known as the M44 breast eagle, but that was the designation which stuck in my mind.
Anyway. I am looking for info on the following:
- Around what date was this breast eagle design first introduced into common use?
- Would it ever have been applied to the M43 HBT tunics, or was it an M44-only design?
- (as a somewhat related sub-question to the one above: what manner of breast/arm eagle was used on Liebermuster, if any?)
I am in the process of designing a new late-war M43 HBT tunic for a sani impression, and wanted to check whether the triangular design could replace the regular mid-war grey-on-field-grey Heer design. Thanks in advance.
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