What did a medic carry?

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cheers that Brilliant
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You're welcome.

To whom should I address the invoice?
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Feldjager wrote:Ummm..., best I can do at the moment

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Dimensions are about 225mm x 100mm x 260mm. Weight when full is about 3kgs.
Hi, I've got one of those with most of the contents. It's the 'Sani' version of the DRK Helferin tasche, but much larger.
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Hush now chillun, the doctor is in. :twisted:

352nd wrote:there's one on at the moment, it's item 6593727927. Is this the correct thing?
Nope, thats a DRK nurses bag. I used to use one (still have it if your interested), but its abit of a fantasy item for a sanitäter to use (which is why I havent used it in a long time).

Dave, your spot on for what they carried in the belt pouches. However you've got to be careful which pouches you use. The krankenträgertasche look identical to the sanitäter one's, however the KT pouches are marked with a K externally and contain no pain releif - only bandages and ligatures etc.

The right sani pouch contains:

1 paper-box with 2 iodine bottles 4ccm Tinctura Jodi, 1 artificial resine soapbox with 50g soap, 1 paperbox with 1 roll Collemplastrum Zinci 5m x 2,5cm, 5 band aid packs 8cm x 9,5cm in paper, 1 grey aluminium box with 1 one tube 10ccm Unguentum saliicylici 2%ig, 2 tubes 10ccm Unguentum Formaldehydi 8%ig, 1 tube 10ccm alcalic eye-ointment. 5 aluminium tablet-tubes with 20 tablets Acidum acetylosalicylicum 0,5g, 20 tablets Opium 0,03g, 15 tablets Rhizoma Rei 0.5g, 20 tablets Cardiazol 0,1g, 10 tablets Natrium bicarbonic 1,0g.

The drugs carried are very light pain killers, anti-septics, ointments etc etc. Hard opiates and drugs such as morphine I believe, were not carried by your average sani., but by the sanitätsunteroffizier oder assitenzarzt.

Tabards were field/unit made to an issued standard, that is to say that I havent seen any made at a factory, but the design was issued from a company. As for helmets, Ive seen various helmet covers converted with red crosses, but the magority of examples are painted. Some beleive the painted helmets are a fantasy item of serving sani's, and that they only painted their helmets white and donned crosses on them when captured by the Allies; personally I reken thats rubish, but I dont have any evidence to counter it.

352nd, I wouldnt bother finding a shoulderbag, they are as rare as rockinghorse dung (Kev, you fancy selling me your one? :lol: ), I have an original arzt's shoulder pouch and I almost died of shock when I found that in the Channel Islands. Besides, shoulderbags' were never as widely issued as the belt pouches, the common ones later in the war were the mounted orderlies bags (the ones that look like two belt pouches put together). Examples of these pouches can be seen in various Ardennes photographs and the book "The German Army 1939-45" (very old book, but great for uniform and kit photographs).

Personally I would stick to buying the pouches from SoF - even though the magority they stock are Luftschutze pouches. And for £55 a tad too expensive for what it is you get. However they are great for people who want a very basic sani impression going, and some of the kit they contain isnt too bad. Look out for the pouches marked "S" on the back, and even better if they are waffenampt like mine (you know they are defo wehrmacht that way).

P.S DONT use American kit i.e. an American medics helmet cover or Armbands. If your going to use non-German armbands, find the old French ones as they are 100% correct bar the stamps which can be scrubbed off or faded to look like worn German stamps.

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Ah well, I was close. Not that sure about some medical stuff!

Ask me one about the Feldgendarmerie... :mrgreen:
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Kein problem, it was your group I started learning off :lol:

Oh before I forget, 352nd, DONT use DRK armbands, its a common mistake (not for the SBG as they have a DRK unit which is the dogs danglies 8) ) as your guys will be portraying Wehrmacht medics and not a civilian organisation.
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As much as I'd like to accomodate you Tom, I'm afraid it cost me £150, and that was a snip!

I've been busy collecting the internal pouches and instruments that goes with it. It's like a Chinese puzzle inside.

Yes, Tom is dead right regarding DRK armbands with the writing around the cross. Only a civilian impression, this one.
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Schäfer wrote:As much as I'd like to accomodate you Tom, I'm afraid it cost me £150, and that was a snip!

I've been busy collecting the internal pouches and instruments that goes with it. It's like a Chinese puzzle inside.
I bet! The ampules and tablets seem to be the hardest things to find...funny thing is, Ive got the civilian version of them with the contents still there. Cant seem to find the military ones :evil: Still, you will have a lovely medical collection without them let alone with.


Next thing on zee list is medical crates/boxes, one arrived yesterday which was quite good, Ive got my eye on another one which has the draws and dividers. Definately fills the display out. :D
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If you look at this picture Image you can see the ampules in a card bix to the right of the measuring mug. The drugs are kept in small aluminium cylinders in a wooden box - this is at the rear to the right of the radio with the lid open. I'll see if I have any better quality pictures lurking about my hard drive!
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Feldjager wrote:If you look at this picture Image you can see the ampules in a card bix to the right of the measuring mug. The drugs are kept in small aluminium cylinders in a wooden box - this is at the rear to the right of the radio with the lid open. I'll see if I have any better quality pictures lurking about my hard drive!
OOO OOOO Dont forget to mention that the tent is an original GJ medical one, used post war by the girl scouts and has their names still visible on it! - An elephant never forgets :shock:

I felt like a kid in a candy store at Beltring last year....all that gucci kit from both FG42 and SBG. Siiiiigh... still, one can but try, and Swyn should prove interesting.
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yes that's an impressive display.
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352nd wrote:yes that's an impressive display.
The real question is, have we given you all the information you need? :wink:
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Would a medic carry full field kit - i.e. Feldspaten, bayonet, gas mask cannister ?
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Photo resources say yes in combat areas / on manouvres. In areas of ease and comfort - then not really no. Play it safe, wear most of your kit and then you cant be wrong - its issue
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Feldjager wrote:SHOULDER BAG
The shoulder-bag (Krankenträgertasche zum Umhängen) is used by unmounted orderlies and replaced the normal belt bags from year 1942 on. The shoulder-bag is made of leather and is more practical when in use. The content ismore accessible than in the old belt-bags. The bag is carried by a shoulder-belt on the left shoulder and fastened to the belt. The shoulder-bag contains the same material as the belt-bags but more bandaging material.
There was one on Ebay some days ago. Is this it?

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