uniform camo italian
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He have not, and if you had read this tread before writing, you would understand that.
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I'm REALLY happy with Chen's Iti camo actually.
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Wolfie, That actually looks Okay.He did a good job
In this photo it looks like this officer has had slit pockets made up as they were made by unit taylors.
SMwholsales' pattern.(On my lovely rumper suit)
Not too far off Chen, He should pat himself on the back. He puts a lot of effort into getting it right.
In this photo it looks like this officer has had slit pockets made up as they were made by unit taylors.
SMwholsales' pattern.(On my lovely rumper suit)
Not too far off Chen, He should pat himself on the back. He puts a lot of effort into getting it right.
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Chens Dot 44 is rubbish, one of the worst attempts at this pattern.Jack wrote:Looking at chens on his website hes copied smw, just like he tried to with the dot 44.
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This tread is not about the dot44 pattern
The Ita camo on the other hand is by far the best repro, as can also be observed by reading earlier posts by other users in this debate.
The Ita camo on the other hand is by far the best repro, as can also be observed by reading earlier posts by other users in this debate.
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Are you suggesting I start a thread on just how shit his dot print is? I rather think it would be better as an aside in this thread?
His Italian print is very good, he needs to bring the rest of his camo up to that standard.
His Italian print is very good, he needs to bring the rest of his camo up to that standard.
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Rather than go down the route of looking at German Camo on the small section that is devoted to Italian bits and pieces, lets try and keep this contained about the use of Italian Camo by German forces. What i'd like to know is, percentage wise, how many truppen were issued the Italian camo uniform during WW2, and how its that reflected in current reenactment groups portraying HJ and LAH? Is there too much Italian camo being worn by German reenactors than what was realistically issued?
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IMHO, the German Army and the Police(especially regiment "Bozen") wore far more garments made from italian camo material than the LAH or HJ ever did; I've seen many photos of heer and Polizei soldiers wearing overalls, helmet covers, trousers, shorts, caps etc. All I'm saying is that the HJ and LAH did wear italian camo, but that it was far more common with the army and the police(and maybe even the Luftwaffe).
Take a look at these photos and you will see a lot of italian camo in wear);
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.ph ... 2=1&ns14=1
http://zeltbahn.com/pol_gal.htm
Just my 5 cents!
About chen's camo; it looks really good, hopefully he'll make an italian sahariana some day soon!
Take a look at these photos and you will see a lot of italian camo in wear);
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.ph ... 2=1&ns14=1
http://zeltbahn.com/pol_gal.htm
Just my 5 cents!
About chen's camo; it looks really good, hopefully he'll make an italian sahariana some day soon!
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Indeed Berg, and hopefully some M41 camo trousers too.
The Caped sahariana is something that will look good. Its a tricky thing to make, as you've got to get the caping just right. Made wrongly, it could look very farby. Hong Kong Keith did that with his Italian Guibba e Vento (Or Mountain troopers wind-cheater). Wrong material, wrong cut. It was awful.
However, Chen's Italian Camo looks as good, if not better in aspect, to SM Wholesale. Both are good colouration. I like Chens pattern as the tan section is bolder than SM's version, as it is in many original Telo Tenda's. However, SM's gives a more subdued effect, so is possibly a better blending camo for use in the field.
The best thing about this repro material is its giving German reenactors a more authentic uniform, and its leaving us Italian reenactors something to sleep under and keep dry in on those wet guard duties.
Neil
The Caped sahariana is something that will look good. Its a tricky thing to make, as you've got to get the caping just right. Made wrongly, it could look very farby. Hong Kong Keith did that with his Italian Guibba e Vento (Or Mountain troopers wind-cheater). Wrong material, wrong cut. It was awful.
However, Chen's Italian Camo looks as good, if not better in aspect, to SM Wholesale. Both are good colouration. I like Chens pattern as the tan section is bolder than SM's version, as it is in many original Telo Tenda's. However, SM's gives a more subdued effect, so is possibly a better blending camo for use in the field.
The best thing about this repro material is its giving German reenactors a more authentic uniform, and its leaving us Italian reenactors something to sleep under and keep dry in on those wet guard duties.
Neil
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Germans using italian camo.
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Ant-z military pattern italian camo, I liked it!
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Is he going to producing the combi suits? His ebay website never looks 'updated'
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gents- find below a copy of the sm wholesale italientarnhosen and the one from chen.
after reading this thread, and the wonderful background/historical photos and examples of period italian pattern camouflage, i'd hesitate a guess to say that chen's camouflage pattern is better than sm wholesale, often seen as the holy grail of camouflage patterns (with good reason).
also notice the comparison shot of the two sets. now, caveat empor, my smwholesale set has been cleaned about 10 times.
enjoy lads.
and chen, well done, i am suitably impressed.
after reading this thread, and the wonderful background/historical photos and examples of period italian pattern camouflage, i'd hesitate a guess to say that chen's camouflage pattern is better than sm wholesale, often seen as the holy grail of camouflage patterns (with good reason).
also notice the comparison shot of the two sets. now, caveat empor, my smwholesale set has been cleaned about 10 times.
enjoy lads.
and chen, well done, i am suitably impressed.
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Must say Chen's do look quite good - he's got the look of the 'twiggy bits' much better.
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Thanks for the comparison photo's, its good to see both repro's side by side.
I like Chens, alot. SM's is still good though. I'd like to see what chens looks like after a good few washes in DAZ and lemon juice treatment and on the washing line for a month. At this moment in time, we can say that SM's fades down nicely.
Chens Pattern is great. It has those features of 'crispness' that i've seen on Italian Camo. The lighter tan section is good too. Its the lighter end of the Ochre spectrum, but at least it isn't bright yellow.
What it now boils down to for you Ted's is to see who constructs them more authentically, and how they hold up with the rough and tumble of private/public battles.
What I'd like to see now is some M41 cut camo trousers, with a caped combat smock. Possibly a nice step in late war Nembo para smock wouldn't go amiss either.
DECIMA!!!!!!!!
Neil
I like Chens, alot. SM's is still good though. I'd like to see what chens looks like after a good few washes in DAZ and lemon juice treatment and on the washing line for a month. At this moment in time, we can say that SM's fades down nicely.
Chens Pattern is great. It has those features of 'crispness' that i've seen on Italian Camo. The lighter tan section is good too. Its the lighter end of the Ochre spectrum, but at least it isn't bright yellow.
What it now boils down to for you Ted's is to see who constructs them more authentically, and how they hold up with the rough and tumble of private/public battles.
What I'd like to see now is some M41 cut camo trousers, with a caped combat smock. Possibly a nice step in late war Nembo para smock wouldn't go amiss either.
DECIMA!!!!!!!!
Neil