Tents ?
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Tents ?
question , what is the best type tent to use for a Living History Display ?
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Re: Tents ?
One that doesn't leak for a startjmatchlock wrote:question , what is the best type tent to use for a Living History Display ?
It depends on the display though if you think about it, are you talking about medical or kitchen set-ups? Command tents or signals?
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Jay the Finnish army dont have 1 man tents as such its 5 or 10 with a stove
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Erik -Thanks -Think the -The cardboard tents, made from ensolite, were a substitute for the lack of tents, and they were produced by Enso-Gutzeit. Their weight (180 kg) and clumsiness made them usable only to HQ's and troops far behind the front-line -would make a great display -need more information and measurements to make one , Thank You, Jay
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Jay and Erik my dear sirs we still have the cloth type with the stove
they are over 1000 e to buy
they are over 1000 e to buy
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There are hardly any original tents existing in the world, since they were all used after the war. Luckily some things in the Finnish army never change, and they made tents in exact same pattern and nearly in the same materials until somewhere around the year 2000. Then they started making a tent model 2005, which is the same but with modern materials.
They are costly to buy, but there's plenty of these 60's to 80's made going around. But like Franz said, they cost like 1000 - 1500 euros.
There is actually two sizes, small and big one. Well, there's also command tent and medic tent but you won't need those. And actually there is 3 heights in the big ones, but only the smallest one is correct for world war 2.
Anyways, the small one is called 'sissiteltta' (guerille tent, you know what sissi, right?) which is a nasty and evil tent. It should house 8-10 men, but even 8 is pushing it. You can't have anything extra inside, just yourself, backpack (as a pillow) and your blanket. Also, the height of the tent is less than a meter, so you have to crawl inside and if you happend to sleep on the back, you have to crawl over your mates as they sleep (and their smelly feet!). Nasty one, but plenty of those around. I have had a pleasure of sleeping in one during the winter. It's wet, hot and extremely uncomfortable.
The bigger one is called 'puolijoukkueteltta' (Half-a-platoon-tent), also known as PJ-teltta. It's taller and bigger version of sissiteltta, and it houses anything from 12 to 20 men. 20 men is REALLY crowded but it can be done if everyone spoons the guy next to you. The more normal number is 12 to 16 men in a tent, so you can imagine it's really really really crowded in there. It's a shame I never took a photo of our tent from the inside during my service...
Living in these tents is still the same these days as it was during the 40's and there are certain rules and things you do in the tent, I might talk about these later if someone wants to know and feels that it is important for their immersion.
Oh, don't buy the camouflage-ones. The green & light green ones are correct. Watch out for modern civilian copies of it!
They are costly to buy, but there's plenty of these 60's to 80's made going around. But like Franz said, they cost like 1000 - 1500 euros.
There is actually two sizes, small and big one. Well, there's also command tent and medic tent but you won't need those. And actually there is 3 heights in the big ones, but only the smallest one is correct for world war 2.
Anyways, the small one is called 'sissiteltta' (guerille tent, you know what sissi, right?) which is a nasty and evil tent. It should house 8-10 men, but even 8 is pushing it. You can't have anything extra inside, just yourself, backpack (as a pillow) and your blanket. Also, the height of the tent is less than a meter, so you have to crawl inside and if you happend to sleep on the back, you have to crawl over your mates as they sleep (and their smelly feet!). Nasty one, but plenty of those around. I have had a pleasure of sleeping in one during the winter. It's wet, hot and extremely uncomfortable.
The bigger one is called 'puolijoukkueteltta' (Half-a-platoon-tent), also known as PJ-teltta. It's taller and bigger version of sissiteltta, and it houses anything from 12 to 20 men. 20 men is REALLY crowded but it can be done if everyone spoons the guy next to you. The more normal number is 12 to 16 men in a tent, so you can imagine it's really really really crowded in there. It's a shame I never took a photo of our tent from the inside during my service...
Living in these tents is still the same these days as it was during the 40's and there are certain rules and things you do in the tent, I might talk about these later if someone wants to know and feels that it is important for their immersion.
Oh, don't buy the camouflage-ones. The green & light green ones are correct. Watch out for modern civilian copies of it!
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During wartime (Winter war / Continuation war) Finnish tent were mostly brown or very dark brown. Material was 100% cotton without any reinforcements.
Today Finnish Defence Forces uses green/olive green tents with reinforcements and cotton/polyester twill. Model 2005 tent has also this ripstop-like material.
Form of the tent is same though, like Bauer said earlier. Finns though camouflaged their tents ALWAYS so it will cover your not-100%-correct tent .
Today Finnish Defence Forces uses green/olive green tents with reinforcements and cotton/polyester twill. Model 2005 tent has also this ripstop-like material.
Form of the tent is same though, like Bauer said earlier. Finns though camouflaged their tents ALWAYS so it will cover your not-100%-correct tent .
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we was given our camo one and use it as a over spill tentPeter Bauer wrote:Oh, don't buy the camouflage-ones. The green & light green ones are correct. Watch out for modern civilian copies of it!